Posts by Judas I.

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Can we talk more about meanings of individual words used in the bible?

by Judas I. in

i really enjoyed the feedback i recieved from an earlier post i made.

i was asking about how anyone could actually know the meanings of simple words like "fire" "sea" etc and what they meant to the author of the bible.. all we have to go on is our own understanding of what we were taught by others who didn't write the book as to what "fire" was to them.

if they are wrong...we could be all screwed up trying to translate a book without any knowledge of the basic meaning of the words to the one who wrote it.

Judas I.

I really enjoyed the feedback I recieved from an earlier post I made.

I was asking about how anyone could actually know the meanings of simple words like "fire" "sea" etc and what they meant to the Author of the Bible.

All we have to go on is our own understanding of what we were taught by others who didn't write the book as to what "fire" was to them. If they are wrong...we could be all screwed up trying to translate a book without any knowledge of the basic meaning of the words to the one who wrote it.

I like the example someone said about the word "record". A Dj it is an album, a cop it is a perps history, a producer is a session, etc.

What do these simple words mean to God? How can we find out the truth from any man who didn't write the words? Is it nessesary for God to cater to us for understanding His words...or should we be seeking understanding of His language?

Although...I realize if those words were not left open to individual interpetation...His enemies would not be claiming to be following Him and would probably disown Him. I think They may have been tricked by their own greed, and lust for power.

Any thoughts?

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How can someone who doesn't know the language..translate a book?

by Judas I. in

i see people all the time trying to interpert the scriptures for other people who don't understand it.

my question is:.

a simple word like "fire" or "burned" in the bible.

Judas I.

Stapler...I am under the impression that was all part of the plan...to allow people to twist the words so they would claim to be followers of Jesus. If they could not do you really think they would still continue to claim to be his followers? Think abouty it.

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How can someone who doesn't know the language..translate a book?

by Judas I. in

i see people all the time trying to interpert the scriptures for other people who don't understand it.

my question is:.

a simple word like "fire" or "burned" in the bible.

Judas I.

I am not talking about the greek language...I am talking about God's language.

Know someone who can help me understand that language?

I can't seem to find anyone with a clue.

Has nothing to do with greek...english..spanish etc.

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How can someone who doesn't know the language..translate a book?

by Judas I. in

i see people all the time trying to interpert the scriptures for other people who don't understand it.

my question is:.

a simple word like "fire" or "burned" in the bible.

Judas I.

I see people all the time trying to interpert the scriptures for other people who don't understand it. My question is:

A simple word like "fire" or "burned" in the Bible. How do we know what these seemingly simple words really mean to Him?

Someone today said that all vines who don't bear fruit should be gathered together and "burned". He took it and interperted that to mean destroyed if they would not obey His commands. But I also recall Holy Spirit being described as a "burning fire". So does it mean destroyed or babtised with Holy Spirit?

Are we leaning on our own understanding too much?

Only the Author knows the truth about fire...and who He chooses to tell.

How in the hell can someone interpert this book without knowing these basic meanings of these words Did I say KNOWING? Not guessing.

Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I crazy?

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Some scripture you will hear on 21 May at very many churches

by A Paduan in

i no longer call you slaves,.

because a slave does not know what his master is doing.. i have called you friends,.

because i have told you everything i have heard from my father.. it was not you who chose me, but i who chose you.

Judas I.

Hey scout....

I see you basing your interpetation of the parable on being gathered and "burned" as a bad thing. Perhaps it means they should be gathered and "burned" with holy spirit...or babtized with holy spirit.

Are you 100% positive that "burned" is a bad thing to the author? Or are you assumming you know what He meant by "burned". Are you leaning on your own understanding by asserting that? Or do you have some inside information?

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Jesus as a Mediator

by I-follow-the-narrow-path in

i know that jesus is a mediator... it is written in the bible.

i have never heard the jws tell me that he wasn't.

it is written in my bible (in the jw bible), so if they do deny that jesus is a mediator-- .

Judas I.

According to their beliefs Jesus was obstructing justice (in their eyes anyway) yet they continue to claim to be following Him. I think their ass got tricked by their own ignorance myself.

Would they still follow and claim to be following a leader who forgives people they want to be destroyed?

Perhaps it is ok until they disagree with His judgement(s).....Then what are they going to do? Kill Him? Disown Him?

Whatever dude.

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To Serve, or NOT to Serve, That is the Question!

by rockhound in

there seems to be much interest and discussion on the prophecy of jeremiah and whether the message he delivered was one about jerusalem's desolation, or about the servitude of jerusalem and all the nations all around it, to babylon.

was jeremiah's message about the 70 years, a message of total desolation, for just the jews in jerusalem and judah, or was the 70 years a message about babylon's time as a world power?

babylon was used by jehovah, for punishing his wayward people and then at the end of babylons appointed time, she also was punished by jehovah.. it is doubtful that the average witness has actually taken the time to sit down and read the book of jeremiah.

Judas I.

what is meant by "serve"?

What meaning does the word imply?

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a slave does not know what his master is doing

by A Paduan in

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why the old light, new light, failed prophecies, strange contradictory interpretations...................

one answer - a slave does not know what his master is doing.

Judas I.

Perhaps they are having too much fun making their words His words to bother to ask what a simple word like "fire" really meant when He said it. Is it love? holy spirit? or destruction? Can anyone on earth prove what a simple word like that really means? I say NO...and if I am right, how in the hell could anyone understand or interpert the book with out this first understanding the language it is written in? Impossible IMO. Unless it is revealed to them...or they ask.

Do you see the GB actually doing this?

Or is it me that is crazy?

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Revelation chapter 9

by NowImFree in

i have been researching revelation 9 and have recently come to the realization that the jws are claiming in their own literature that they themselves are the locust horde coming out of the abyss spoken of in revelation 9 and they are also claiming that their king is abaddon the king of the abyss who they say is jesus.

in their old literature they used to say the abaddon is satan and now they have done a flip flop and say he is jesus!

this is just amazing to me that they would say this.

Judas I.

You know...nobody on this earth can even tell you what "fire" means to the Author of the book. Could be good...could be bad....Only the Author holds the truth to what the word "fire" really means when He said it. If we are that much in the blind...how can they translate anything at all without the Author telling what the words meant? Damn near impossible IMO.

Is "fire" holy spirit? love? or destruction?

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a slave does not know what his master is doing

by A Paduan in

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why the old light, new light, failed prophecies, strange contradictory interpretations...................

one answer - a slave does not know what his master is doing.

Judas I.

for real.